Per the discussion in these two posts:
https://hexbear.net/post/6569239
https://hexbear.net/comment/6630485
As mod on that (gossip) comm I agree. To be honest, I also think it’s unnecessary to have two separate dunking comms based on whether someone is a public figure or a random person. A lot of times that distinction can be quite blurry, and I don’t blame people for choosing to post in Slop instead, as that is the more active comm.
Reunite El Chisme and Slop to a single comm, and remove slop’s rule #8. “Do not post public figures, these should be posted to c/gossip”
Anyone who is a brand or working for one, or anyone who is part of a public-interest news event. Everyone else is not a public figure.
Is a musician a brand? Heather Morgan wasn’t one I would recognize, though Thom Yorke is - and is certainly better known. Is helping launder billions of dollars of stolen property a public-interest news event? Is being a Zionist?
Is running for elected office a public-interest news event? Does the level of office matter? Does it need to be a current campaign? Maria Danzilo ran for state level office. Zohran Mamdani is running for city level office.
Chris Geidner works for BuzzFeed. When TNOQuoProQuid reposts his photo of the east wing of the White House being destroyed, is that a public interest news event?
Yes.
There’s an argument that your garage band is not a brand, but it is aspiring to be one. It is a startup brand.
Yes and anyone doing so is also a brand. Zohran Mamdani is a political brand.
No
Does it need to be a current campaign?
Yes. Someone who has exited politics ceases to be a brand, except where they continue to cultivate a public image as an influencer or transition that public image into some other grift, then they’re still a brand and thus still a public figure.
It’s a person working for a brand who uses the fact they work for that brand for their own interests as an influencer (another brand), therefore a public figure.
Maria Danzilo may not be actively running for office any longer, but she doesn’t seem to have exited politics.
TNOQuoProQuid is “design lead for @TNOmod” which I knew nothing about until recently, but is apparently a pretty well known game mod within some communities. The question IMO is more about whether the content was a “public-interest news event” than the specific person posting about it being a “brand” though.
In short, it sounds to me like your definition doesn’t actually change any of the content recently posted here, though I can simultaneously justify removing most of it or keeping all of it depending on how I choose to interpret your definition. Are there recent posts here that would have been removed if the mods were following your criteria?
Still a brand then.
Easier to identify whether people are brands or not than whether an event is public interest enough, that is a much looser thing to identify than whether someone or something is a brand which I think is actually very easy.
To summarize, it sounds to me like you are saying that this comm largely does not need to have any changes to how it’s moderated for the content to comply with rule 1. Is that an accurate interpretation?
Yeah for the most part I just think the people that get upset at content moderation need to be bullied a little bit because content moderation needs to happen even if it is inconvenient at times. For me the convenience of two comms for separation is higher than the inconvenience of moderation.
Sorry, I’m not following. Are you saying that there are recent posts in this comm that should be removed by mods because they belong in slop? Scrolling through several pages, I see at most one post that, based on my understanding of where you’re drawing the line, is probably something that would be better in badposting than either here or slop.
I haven’t done an audit. My commentary is mostly based on other people’s complaining. I am not complaining.