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they’ll be calling Russia “East Ukraine” until
2065America also collapsesI couldn’t resist a little r*ddit “FTFY”
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Brother for the sake of the biosphere it’s gotta be sooner than that
Idk
Only American libs I’ve met who give a shit that much about Ukraine are usually super redditors. Most don’t care that much IMHO.
I think it’s much more of a European lib thing
Qe are super weird about it in Canada as well. Our public busses have a Stabd With Ukraine message on em
Canada is the #1 Nazi Liberal country on planet earth
At least American politicians no longer hide that they’re Nazis, Canaidains are still doing smug 2015 liberalism with their Nazism and going “le drumpf”
You still see people talking about how Crimea is Ukrainian, and that the Russians will be evicted any day now.
They’ll move onto supporting a genocide in Venezuela
They are already laying the foundation for their own Stab-in-the-back myth
I think they’re gonna try blaming Trump, but it won’t work because the second the us actually pulls out some EU countries will as well.
It might work on the most radical of liberals but I think for the average lib if they see england and France pulling out when America does it works less
They 100% will blame Trump. My dad is totally convinced Trump has been paid off by Russia to abandon Europe, I think that’s gonna be the most common narrative among liberals.
I mean what if the US continues support and Ukraine still loses?
I’m convinced everything trump is doing is because he wants to give half of Ukraine away to Russia so the US gets the other half. But I don’t think the Russians are biting so he isn’t pulling out.
I think the us might not pull out and Ukraine still loses.
They will blame it on Winter.
Blame Trump, that’s what they’ve been doing. “Ukraine was going to build its own weapons but because of Trump they’ll have to sign a deal with Russia”
European liberals blame trump now more than American ones I’ve noticed
American libs have largely moved to hating the Dems and gop equally (as we saw with Kamala floundering in the election)
European liberals have much worse trump derangement syndrome because they think he’s personally gonna give Ukraine to Russia
I’ve thought about it a lot, and I’m almost confident enough to try to make a prediction. Keep in mind, I’m not a guy you should take predictions from.
In the liberal worldview, Ukraine doesn’t actually exist. Like so many other things in the liberal (as in, pro-capitalism) mind, things like Ukraine occupy the same network of hollow symbols and concepts that only gets invoked to Argue about and obsess over.
Similar symbols in these networks are undefinable and hollow concepts like “freedom” “liberty” “freedom of speech” and so on.
It’s not a war to them. Not really, it’s a spectacle to observe, with narratives and thunderous rhetoric of “victory” and “bravery” and the best thing about the symbolic Ukraine is, that’s all it requires of you. Watching it, like a TV show and gush over your favourite characters like zelinski, putin or Ivana Jagoff.
Even if the actual, real life Ukraine were to fall, it wouldn’t register as a defeat, because that’s incompatible with the symbol of Ukraine and the virtues assigned to it.
“Ukraine” if totally defeated, would still exist as a symbol of bravery and victory to these delusional libs, even as the surviving nazi mercenaries go amok and start terrorcampaigns all over europe as revenge for getting “stabbed in the back.”
They will go to brunch and forget all about it. On the rare occasion they remember it they will just say something rascist then go back to brunch
USA does a decades-long covert operation pushing nazis leading up to a coup with Victoria Nuland’s hand-picked officials and the new regime begins ethnic cleansings: good and necessary
Russia crosses the magic sovereignty line in response: unforgiveable criminal behavior by the troglodytes which cannot be allowed, get me FIFA on the phone
(meanwhile the USA’s colonial outpost blockades and bombs starving Palestinians in a livestreamed genocide)
If you bring up the ethnic cleansing people act like you’re insane. It’s not like I have some secret info. It’s so weird. The invasion started with the US and Ukrainian governments saying Russia would invade on a certain day, and then when it wouldn’t happen the Ukranian military would escalate the shelling of the DPR and LPR cities. Finally Russia invaded. I can’t think of any way to see this except they were trying to force Russia to intervene.
This is exactly what happened, right? I would love to be wrong on this so I could have the normal liberal opinion.
Yes this is exactly what happened, Russia invaded during active mobilisation of AFU preparing for massive strike at Donbas which would end with high scale ethnic cleansing.
Liberals will simply concoct a scenario where Ukraine losing is better than winning because of integrity or valor or some other intangible concept. Liberals are champs at losing so they’ll just move on to the next thing they can clutch pearls about.
I’m sure they’ll find a way to blame leftists on Twitter
Yep, it’ll be “they lost because they are too honorable to sink to bombing civilians like the evil rooskies.”
Which, of course, will be followed by “this is why we must commit genocide”.
I think liberals in the US are just gonna forget/ move onto caring about another thing, most already have. You barely see Ukraine stuff anymore compared to a few years ago. In Europe idk, I imagine they might actually have to confront?
I agree with this. Outside of some twitter and reddit nafo liberals I don’t think most Americans give a shit.
American liberals news cares but I think American foreign policy being so crue for so long l has made Americans not care about Ukraine.
European libs will do never forget but for Ukraine
There are americans who, to this day, maintain that the US did not lose the Vietnam War.
Ol’ Reliable - the stabbed in the back myth.
“Ukraine totally coulda won if Jews/Commies/Russian speaking Ukrainians/Hamas hadn’t undermined the war effort with their scheming.”
I’m sorry, have you not seen how much materiel (cw: lib) Ukraine has destroyed lately? Russia’s economy is in free fall, their defeat is inevitable.
Seriously, though, it’s gonna be denial til the collective amnesia kicks in just in time for the war with Venezuela to kick off.
The second the war ends Europeans will go back to buying Russian gas and shit.
It will be so embarrassing for liberals
They’ve invested everything on the cope Ukraine will win
I think Europe has gone to far down the war rabbit hole to buy directly from Russia agai . I maybe wrong, but Europe is gearing up for a new world war.
Europeans have viewed Russians as worse than the Nazis since Soviet soldiers took Berlin.
They still bought billions in Russian gas before the war
The European population will not notice or care, and the EU will never actually go to war against Russia.
I hope you are right.
Was russiophobia really that common pre euromaidan? I don’t remember it that way.
It’s in the background radiation of western political discourse for probably several centuries (especially the last one), but it has definitely gotten worse over the last few years. It’s obviously just an extension of the European fear of “barbarians” (AKA the disgusting racism and xenophobia which justifies their constant genocides), which has been there for as long as Europe.
A lot of Europeans have been quietly waiting for the war to stop so we can go back to trading and doing capitalism with Russia.
You’re obviously never going to hear this take much because it can get you fired from your job and it’s a social taboo.
European politicians 100% wish the war was over so they could deport Ukrainians and buy Russian oil
After spending hundreds of billions on lpg ship terminals and inside jobbing the gas pipelines?
They have fully bought into the idea that they are going to win and that USA is their reliable friend. That’s why they humiliate themselves like this, but honestly I can’t wrap my mind around their actions sometimes, surely USA has to be pulling the strings or something no way anyone would actually choose to be like that by their own free will.
This is where the magic happens
They’ll blame Trump and move on
