• ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]@hexbear.netBanned from community
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      You don’t need hierarchies to defend against imperialism

      Anarchist projects have all reverted to capitalism much faster than the Soviet Union did.

      Not without being conquered by fascists or red fash.

      You sure you don’t need those hierarchies buddy? You suuuuuuuure?

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        Yep, I don’t want to help bring about a system which will only revert to capitalism on its own.

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          So you’re happy with a system that will revert to capitalism, your quibble is just over whether it’s taken apart by internal or external forces. Yeah, real coherent ideology you got there.

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            I’m not happy with a system that will revert to capitalism at all. I just think the material conditions are not always the same where anarchists won’t come ahead against the counter-revolution, and when they do, they won’t collapse through their own internal contradictions like ML regimes.

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              So AES states prove that socialist states always collapse and becomes capitalism, and the collapse of every anarchist state ever to outside of forces doesn’t prove that anarchist states are incapable of defending themselves? I have that right? And that makes sense to you?

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      this is why people like me just laugh and call you a fucking child, because like, what are you even on? What does your revolutionary society look like? How is it organized?

      You just out yourself as an ignorant, illiterate fuck who doesn’t realize that political anarchism is about the abolition of unjust and arbitrary hierarchies, not some idealist bullshit ass “we need a non hierarchical society” and a belief that you just get there by fucking magic. You are going to need to have a political organization of some kind, and guess what? The establishment of that is inherently fucking hierarchical!

      What makes it good is not being a hierarchy based on fucking nobility or property ownership or oppressive class relations, dipshit. You are better off jerking yourself to death in your goon cave than chasing after some platonic ideal of A Lack of Hierarchy when here in the fucking real world the bourgoisie, fascists and cops are closing the noose around your neck and mine.

      I’d tell you to grow the fuck up but I know you’re just going to keep crying about authority and hierarchy while every single fucking lying weaselly ass statement from your mouth assists the imperialists and the bourgeoisie, whether you know it or not

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        Tankies :“immature”, “anakiddie”, “liberal”, “reactionary”, “ignorant”, “waaaa”

        Also tankies : “what about that left unity doe?”

        A tale repeated since the nonsense that is “on authority”

        But thanks for reinforcing to the audience why one just not align with (nevermind trust) MLs.

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          They’re not calling anarchists idiots. They’re explicitly referring to you who started being combative right out of the gate with this dumb fucking meme

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            Right, it’s not like MLs have been calling anarchists who don’t toe the line “infantile” (when not outright labeling them as liberals so as to have an excuse to purge them) since the times of Lenin. Totally isolated incident

            Here’s an advice, If you don’t like this sort of of meme, maybe block anarchism comms outside of your instance instead of coming to in our space to antagonize and troll?

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              Lmao, why would I block anarchist comms when I consider them to be comrades? You’re the one being antagonistic, not anarchists as a whole.

              If you don’t like hexbears calling you out on your shit then maybe you should be the one to disengage and defederate? Anarchists are always welcome on hexbear, but it’s clear that “tankies” aren’t welcome in your comms.

              when not outright labeling them as liberals

              You mean like what you’re doing to us in this meme? That’s a nice glass house you’ve got, try not to throw any rocks.

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                The meme is not calling you “liberals” lol. Work on it your reading comprehension.

                I’m not being antagonistic. I’m just shit posting for anarchists in an anarchist comm, y’all don’t have to be here. Why would I defed you when y’all come in such threads and beautifully make my point for me?

                Likewise anarchists that don’t toe the campist line are absolutely not welcome in hexbear, y’all just get around that by calling them “liberals” before dogpiling and eventually banning them.

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                  Lmao, work on my reading comprehension? You’re using fucking poli-balls. If you think you’re “winning” this engagement, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

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                    What, you think because you’re here along with your hexbear buddies and circlejerk each other, that you’re “winning”?