I know that there are a lot of trans people on hexbear, and I know their beliefs are sincere. What I don’t understand is how they square the fact that they would be brutally suppressed, r*****, tortured, murdered by the very groups/governments they unwaveringly love and support. It sickens me. Is it a manifestation of self-hatred? I just don’t get why they would degrade themselves like this.

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    Libs don’t even try to understand critical support and what it means. Every time it’s just “omg you love Russia and everything they do” or some other nonsense. They have no depth to their thoughts, it’s like the first thing that comes to mind is the thing they will believe for the rest of their lives.

    Their knee jerk reaction is their ideology and they have the audacity to act like communists are incoherent? They’re the ones simultaneously telling me the US gov is bad, but we should support US imperialism because bombing trans people is better than their government oppressing them?

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      I can’t tell you how often I have encountered the viewpoint that “Tankies only support Putin because they think he is a socialist.”

      And if you say something like “I have literally never met any ‘tankie’ that believes this and I meet a lot of them,” they will just ignore you. No rebuttal, no insult, usually not even a cursory dismissal. They just act like you didnt say anything

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        The only people who fit the criteria for the liberal conception of communists are Caleb Maupin and that Haz guy. They’re self styled communists who do speak positively about Putin and modern Russia. They also talk fondly about…the United States and talk shit about…service workers. They’re the ones who are incoherent.

        They’re also virulent antisemites and pal around with actual fascists like that Dugin guy. My point here is that Maupin and Haz are probably feds or fed adjacent. And somehow these guys have become what a large groups of liberals believe a communist is.

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          Ohhh I see, they’ve mistaken the so-called maga communists for something more than national socialists doing yet another appropriation

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            Yeah but how they’ve even encountered maga communists is a mystery. They’re so niche you have to basically be a politics nerd like one of us. How they conflate maga communists with normal Marxists is another question entirely. The only answer I’ve come up with is there’s someone at the state department pushing this stuff

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              I imagine a lot of the liberal influencers talk about it and just call them communists. I think that’s the entire point of maga communism even if it isn’t an actual gov run op. The people doing it are all the type to do this kind of shit as a way to get attention and “troll the left”

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        its actually kind of impressive how well the brainwashing works. they have a gag reflex to opposing views that stops them from even considering it.