• Kieselguhr [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      If you oppose imperialism, you’re imperialist.

      My favourite such interaction was when a shitlib explained to me that even thinking in terms of imperial interests (as in “the US has imperial interests in South America”) you are essentially an imperialist yourself. If you describe imperial geopolitics and grand strategy, that’s when you become an imperialist. He was very adamant too.

      Olympian level mental gymnastics (competitive Dunning-Kruger performance).

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          Well, there was no thought out justification (he literally just said that if you talk about imperial interests you are an imperialist)

          The context of all things was a Jacobin article saying that Russia has imperial interests too, and it’s reasonable to think that they will act according to their imperial interests, and it’s unreasonable to think that they will just abandon their interests, because the US wouldn’t either

          What made it extra annoying was the arrogance that is typical of shitlibs

          Thinking back, you never know whether you are debating a smug 16 year old online, though my guess would be that the person was mid-20s

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      If you point out all their memes epically “PWNING” Trump and Putin by… depicting them as gay is just plain homophobia, that means you’re on the Kremlin’s payroll and tankie and Russian bot, all at the same time.

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      “Um, dont you realize that power corrupts?”

      -Someone who is definitely thinking about the world in concrete terms and is not at all treading metaphysical water beneath the long shadow of the church

      Damn guys, it turns out any attempt to defeat fascism makes you literally indistinguishable from the fascists. I guess there’s nothing left to do but pray post memes about the Epstein files until Jesus Bernie Sanders comes back to deliver us to frictionless western leftist Heaven.