Maybe they’ll release one more, maybe, but I think that’s it after that. Gears of War on Playstation was already a strong indicator, but this seals it imo.

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    It’s Joever for console exclusives and consoles in general. Sony puts their games on PC for free too, what’s the point of having a Playstation?

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      I see this argument a lot and it always strikes me as odd. After all, if we keep our discussion to just games and turn the question around, what’s the point in having a big beefy gaming PC? There are very few exclusives there either.

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        You can play all the Playstation, Xbox and Nintendo ”exclusives”. There are also plenty of games that are either exclusive to PC or just best played on PC.

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          Nah, the reason I said “very few” is because “all” in either case is not true. You can’t play Half Life Alyx on a console and you can’t play Astrobot on a PC, but these are exceptions to the rule.

          Ultimately “best played” is wherever the player wants to play it. That’s the whole benefit of the console wars being over! We don’t need to fight over this silly stuff.

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          Emulators can run fine on a phone or an old dented MacBook Air from the 2010s, you don’t need a gaming PC for that. Likewise the low-end indie games and so on. And piracy, well, you’d need to do quite a lot of piracy to break even after buying an nvidia graphics card. It almost seems hypocritical to spend so much on one thing only to avoid spending on another.

          Mods, yes, they’re a bit less common or interesting than they were 15-20 years ago, and some games like Quake and Doom and so on have mods on their console versions now, but that’s largely still a PC only thing, yes.

          The other unspoken reason for PC gaming is because it’s expensive. It’s the bougie high-end option where you can spend a stupid amount of money to get a higher resolution higher frame rate experience.

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            The other things I like about PC gaming are openness and backwards compatibility. Only Xbox seems to take the latter at least somewhat seriously

            Also I have an older budget AMD card I got off my local Craigslist equivalent, thank you very much. No, it doesn’t ray trace for shit

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              Openness is less true than it used to be, given the dominance of closed platforms like Steam and the aims of Microsoft. We’re all extremely lucky that Microsoft is as incompetent as it is and that Steam is not particularly user-hostile. The moment Gabe dies or decides to sell Valve to private equity will be a massive crisis point for PC gaming.

              Something I’ve found with backwards compatibility on PC is that sometimes you’re better off running the console version under emulation than trying to get an old Windows .exe to behave itself. Good luck if it was made for windows 9x!

              And yes, of course there’s still value in old PC parts, just like there’s still a lot of value in keeping an old dusty PS4 from 2013 that can inexplicably still run a lot of new releases in 2025. Keeping old shit working is great!

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            The unspoken secret of PC gaming is that you can spend around the same amount you’d spend on a console on a prebuilt and it’ll be good enough for most people. Some enthusiasts might snub you for using one, but they’re just fine. 1080p is the sweet spot tbh, you don’t need a higher resolution than that.

            The new consoles are also ludicrously expensive, especially the PS5 Pro. I definitely can’t say they’re worth the money compared to a relatively budget PC, since on top of that you’re locked into that manufacturer’s peripherals, while on PC you can use any controller you want. 8bitdo will save you cash.

            I don’t really see the logic in saying you need to do a lot of piracy to break even on a GPU. If publishers are going to be serious about asking $80-90 for a new game, then you’d just need to download 6 or 7 games assuming you’ve spent $500 on a GPU. Mods maybe aren’t what they used to be, but there’s still impressive stuff coming out for games like Assetto Corsa.

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              No that’s quite commonly spoken. But saying “you can buy a shitbox!” (like the ones I’ve typically built for myself over the years) is not a super great argument for why PCs rule and consoles drool. What is it that makes gaming on a PC special? Paying the same price as a base PS5 or Switch 2 for less well-optimized experience isn’t especially distinctive, but again that’s fine, people can go with what they prefer without worrying about what’s “better”. If you want to plug a big janky Windows PC into a television then that’s a choice you are perfectly able to make. It doesn’t need to be a contest.

              Oh, third party controllers do exist for consoles, including some made by 8bitdo! I’ve got one that has a little button for switching between the different signal types for different devices.