“Omarchy is an omakase distribution based on Arch Linux and the tiling window manager Hyprland. It ships with everything a modern software developer needs to be productive immediately from Neovim (btw) to Spotify, Chromium to Typora, and Alacritty to LibreOffice. Hell, even Zoom is there!”
GNU/Linux has been piercing the mainstream so much these past few months that we even have our own Linux grifters and grift economy (tiling window managers).
I… I- I love tiling window managers my fav WM ive been using for half a decade is a mixed (manual+dynamic tiling, and floating) wm but i mainly use it as a manual tiling wm.
Is the tiling wm thing that much of a grift? (Genuine question, im not plugged in to online culture very much)
The tiling wm folks only really get away with it because they slander desktop environments. You can get tiling in GNOME or KDE while also not sacrificing the rest of the desktop or a design focus.
People using tiling wms are like ripping out the whole house just so they can fit one piece of furniture in rather than trying to make the furniture fit into the existing well furnished house.
The grift basically is that people portray tiling wms (things like sway) as DIY houses when in reality its like a DIY shed. If you dont use a desktop environment you shouldn’t be taken as seriously as someone who does on issues of the desktop. This is how we get things like GNOME being blamed for not adopting unstable protocols because KDE and then a bunch of randos somehow paint a picture of majority support.
GNOME and KDE are both incredibly powerful and flexible, you dont need to throw the baby out with the bath water to perfect your workflow.
Also yeah tiling wms people tend to be chuds because most of them are just 1-2 people.
Honestly, I’ve come around on this in recent years. I love sway (and tiling windows), but I can do everything it does in GNOME/KDE, and I have the bonus of a no-nonsense cohesive system fit for purpose where accessibility isn’t a complete joke. It helps that both GNOME & KDE as organizations are very cool, imo.
because tiling wm people are smug little shits “heh, i bet YOUR desktop environment can’t… SPLIT SCREENS” when it’s been like a standard feature for over a decade… probably more
cause arch is a really good distro but people are scared of arch so they gravitate towards arch “ready to use” distros which seem more friendly but in practice will cause more hassle in the long term.
That I get, people that use it swear by it, even tho it is not for me. I rather not have to deal with the AUR and having to keep an eye on the wiki to see if I need to not update because something broke and requires manual intervention, which I know happens rarely, but still.
The system I have is to assume that all software is libre. Then if I’m naming something that is proprietary I mention it.
"GNU Emacs is a program designed to be an multipurpose extensible interface to information/text manipulation. It is published by the GNU Project under a copyleft license.
"VSCode is a proprietary program released by Microsoft that is a multi-language code editor extended via plugins. Microsoft profits off of VSCode’s product network effect to sell proprietary plugins and subscription services. There is VSCodium as the de-blobbed implementation of VSCode published under a no-rights permissive license. This means that users contributing to codium will also be benefitting VSCode in turn, exposing the injustice of permissive licenses.
Microsoft’s massive user share on code editing leads to a ripple effect of advertising other proprietary products and also teaches users that proprietary software can be tolerated if it is a useful tool"
No need to juggle between “free vs open vs libre vs Foss etc”
let’s not shit on people that use a particular distro. unless the “distro” in question is omarchy.
“Omarchy is an omakase distribution based on Arch Linux and the tiling window manager Hyprland. It ships with everything a modern software developer needs to be productive immediately from Neovim (btw) to Spotify, Chromium to Typora, and Alacritty to LibreOffice. Hell, even Zoom is there!”
Holy smokes, gee wiz, what dorks
GNU/Linux has been piercing the mainstream so much these past few months that we even have our own Linux grifters and grift economy (tiling window managers).
I… I- I love tiling window managers
my fav WM ive been using for half a decade is a mixed (manual+dynamic tiling, and floating) wm but i mainly use it as a manual tiling wm.
Is the tiling wm thing that much of a grift? (Genuine question, im not plugged in to online culture very much)
The tiling wm folks only really get away with it because they slander desktop environments. You can get tiling in GNOME or KDE while also not sacrificing the rest of the desktop or a design focus.
People using tiling wms are like ripping out the whole house just so they can fit one piece of furniture in rather than trying to make the furniture fit into the existing well furnished house.
The grift basically is that people portray tiling wms (things like sway) as DIY houses when in reality its like a DIY shed. If you dont use a desktop environment you shouldn’t be taken as seriously as someone who does on issues of the desktop. This is how we get things like GNOME being blamed for not adopting unstable protocols because KDE and then a bunch of randos somehow paint a picture of majority support.
GNOME and KDE are both incredibly powerful and flexible, you dont need to throw the baby out with the bath water to perfect your workflow.
Also yeah tiling wms people tend to be chuds because most of them are just 1-2 people.
Honestly, I’ve come around on this in recent years. I love sway (and tiling windows), but I can do everything it does in GNOME/KDE, and I have the bonus of a no-nonsense cohesive system fit for purpose where accessibility isn’t a complete joke. It helps that both GNOME & KDE as organizations are very cool, imo.
because tiling wm people are smug little shits “heh, i bet YOUR desktop environment can’t… SPLIT SCREENS” when it’s been like a standard feature for over a decade… probably more
Arch users try not to make another Linux, Japan distro challenge failed miserably
Learned about Onazichy last week, refused to look into it any further, but I don’t understand why people love Arch based distros so much
cause arch is a really good distro but people are scared of arch so they gravitate towards arch “ready to use” distros which seem more friendly but in practice will cause more hassle in the long term.
That I get, people that use it swear by it, even tho it is not for me. I rather not have to deal with the AUR and having to keep an eye on the wiki to see if I need to not update because something broke and requires manual intervention, which I know happens rarely, but still.
NixOS too
What’s the issue with NixOS? Always hear it mentioned here and there and never heard anything bad about it
https://hexbear.net/post/6447348
Lots of chuds who want to turn nixos into a military corpo farm. They are also “apolitical” libs and cishet men are massively overrepresented.
Oh well, so it’s yet another Open Source project filled with chuds, that sucks
Who knew that “open source,” a term designed to appeal to capitalists that depoliticizes the struggle would attract chuds and libs.
Its almost like language and politics matter, and that techbros should be shot on sight.
You’re completely right, I tend to refer to it as FOSS or FLOSS, but I slipped up there lol.
LMAOOOOO
The system I have is to assume that all software is libre. Then if I’m naming something that is proprietary I mention it.
"GNU Emacs is a program designed to be an multipurpose extensible interface to information/text manipulation. It is published by the GNU Project under a copyleft license.
"VSCode is a proprietary program released by Microsoft that is a multi-language code editor extended via plugins. Microsoft profits off of VSCode’s product network effect to sell proprietary plugins and subscription services. There is VSCodium as the de-blobbed implementation of VSCode published under a no-rights permissive license. This means that users contributing to codium will also be benefitting VSCode in turn, exposing the injustice of permissive licenses.
Microsoft’s massive user share on code editing leads to a ripple effect of advertising other proprietary products and also teaches users that proprietary software can be tolerated if it is a useful tool"
No need to juggle between “free vs open vs libre vs Foss etc”
That’s a good way of going about it, I’ll keep that in mind, thanks!
I’d say it’s an ongoing struggle but it’s not going great right now.
I’m not sure if the call to cede the community spaces to the chuds is actually a good idea.
If that’s the case I have to agree, but I don’t know how bad it is in there to say if it is worth people’s time and effort.