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Yeah just learned about Redot today.
Oh a fork of Godot? Neato! Surely for a major technical reason or implementation beef.
No, apparently Godot social media leaned into the accusation of “woke” and that was the split. So Redot is meant to be “non-political”. Yay.
Probably Unity learning a trick from the CIA and funding splinter groups to fuck with their opposition
Spite fork, I’m sure that will work out great.
I’m sure spite is a productive and long-lasting enough sentiment to guarantee the longevity of a project.
I just checked their GitHub, last commit 5 months ago, meanwhile Godot has updates like every two months, reactionaries keep losing
I remember a lib taking offense to being called comrade by a groyper over this thing last year.
Then they go and use NixOS and hyprland.
Is hyprland nazis!?
E: Oh dear
From what I’ve been told, the hyprland community has improved and the dev has started being proactive in banning transphobes. That’s second hand info though. I think it’s simpler to just say that Hyprland is not very good software anyway. The Wayland tiling ecosystem is diverse enough these days that you don’t need Hyprland for eye candy.
I don’t understand this buzz around hyprland. It does nothing better than any of the other Wayland Compositors when I tried using it not too long ago. It has some eye candy effects sure, but the multi-monitor support is as terrible as it is in Sway, but at least in Sway there is a relatively simple way to fix that. hyprland expects you to compile and install some plugins through their own builtin Package Manager! It’s so unnecessary and only adds to the complexity. Plus it sometimes just doesn’t work and errors out with a cryptic error message and the only fix is to wipe the plugins and start over.
One would think that they’d do the sane thing and just implement proper support for something as useful as multi monitor in the base software. I swear these fascists are so convinced that paradise is found in the past, they think it’s still the 2000s and most people just have 1 Video Output in their PC.
I mean this comes from the reactionary “suckless” philosophy that claimed that bloat (basically synonym for “woke”) has ruined Linux.
So we have bottom feeder projects like hyprland that attract users like flies because they market themselves as “cutting edge and minimal” when in reality they will waste more of your time that you’ll never get back.
Usually these chuds overlap with the GNOME haters because GNOME is violently queer so you get these half assed attacks against gnome that never stand up to scrutiny (I swear nearly all “critiques” of gnome are just petty user complaints masquerading as such).
I’ve never seen a suckless person like hyprland. Hyprland meets every definition of their “sucky”. I don’t see how anyone could call Hyprland “minimal”; it’s about as bloated and sloppy as a tiling environment can be without being a full on DE.
I have it on my machine cause bspwm was broken when I decided to check back in on tiling wm about a year ago. It has become so inconsistently usable that I barely use that box and just ssh into it. Its upsetting the amount of time it wasted for me and that was before I found out it is run by nazis.
Fun fact: last I checked the lock screen blur uses 4+ GB of GPU ram for no reason at all. Like it just live renders a static blur the entire time the screen is locked
hyprland isn’t “suckless” at all. Even a normal person will go “wow this sucks” at the sight of the hyprland codebase and the way they do things.
Most of the “suckless” software has the benefit of depending on old, massive X11 swiss knife libs that haven’t really changed in the last 30+ years and are available on most UNIX-like Systems, which makes compiling it from source trivial.
If X was still under active development then all the “suckless” software would only be “suckless” on OpenBSD, because those guys have their own fork of X11 that hasn’t been touched since the end of the 2nd Century.I mean the issue I take with suckless is that it still can suckmore. X11 as a toolkit library and as the base for a xorg server window manager impl is just treating X as a load bearing dependency.
But besides that, I think people took the wrong lesson from suckless and thought it just meant “less = more.” So we get projects like hyprland that think they’re superior because they have less “bloat” or whatever.
In a not too distant future, GNOME will be more suckless than DWM and the suckless folks dont actually care to learn why.
Many people dont think beyond eye candy
let’s not shit on people that use a particular distro. unless the “distro” in question is omarchy.
“Omarchy is an omakase distribution based on Arch Linux and the tiling window manager Hyprland. It ships with everything a modern software developer needs to be productive immediately from Neovim (btw) to Spotify, Chromium to Typora, and Alacritty to LibreOffice. Hell, even Zoom is there!”
Holy smokes, gee wiz, what dorks
GNU/Linux has been piercing the mainstream so much these past few months that we even have our own Linux grifters and grift economy (tiling window managers).
I… I- I love tiling window managers
my fav WM ive been using for half a decade is a mixed (manual+dynamic tiling, and floating) wm but i mainly use it as a manual tiling wm.Is the tiling wm thing that much of a grift? (Genuine question, im not plugged in to online culture very much)
The tiling wm folks only really get away with it because they slander desktop environments. You can get tiling in GNOME or KDE while also not sacrificing the rest of the desktop or a design focus.
People using tiling wms are like ripping out the whole house just so they can fit one piece of furniture in rather than trying to make the furniture fit into the existing well furnished house.
The grift basically is that people portray tiling wms (things like sway) as DIY houses when in reality its like a DIY shed. If you dont use a desktop environment you shouldn’t be taken as seriously as someone who does on issues of the desktop. This is how we get things like GNOME being blamed for not adopting unstable protocols because KDE and then a bunch of randos somehow paint a picture of majority support.
GNOME and KDE are both incredibly powerful and flexible, you dont need to throw the baby out with the bath water to perfect your workflow.
Also yeah tiling wms people tend to be chuds because most of them are just 1-2 people.
Honestly, I’ve come around on this in recent years. I love sway (and tiling windows), but I can do everything it does in GNOME/KDE, and I have the bonus of a no-nonsense cohesive system fit for purpose where accessibility isn’t a complete joke. It helps that both GNOME & KDE as organizations are very cool, imo.
because tiling wm people are smug little shits “heh, i bet YOUR desktop environment can’t… SPLIT SCREENS” when it’s been like a standard feature for over a decade… probably more
Arch users try not to make another Linux, Japan distro challenge failed miserably
Learned about Onazichy last week, refused to look into it any further, but I don’t understand why people love Arch based distros so much
cause arch is a really good distro but people are scared of arch so they gravitate towards arch “ready to use” distros which seem more friendly but in practice will cause more hassle in the long term.
That I get, people that use it swear by it, even tho it is not for me. I rather not have to deal with the AUR and having to keep an eye on the wiki to see if I need to not update because something broke and requires manual intervention, which I know happens rarely, but still.
NixOS too
What’s the issue with NixOS? Always hear it mentioned here and there and never heard anything bad about it
https://hexbear.net/post/6447348
Lots of chuds who want to turn nixos into a military corpo farm. They are also “apolitical” libs and cishet men are massively overrepresented.
Oh well, so it’s yet another Open Source project filled with chuds, that sucks
Who knew that “open source,” a term designed to appeal to capitalists that depoliticizes the struggle would attract chuds and libs.
Its almost like language and politics matter, and that techbros should be shot on sight.
You’re completely right, I tend to refer to it as FOSS or FLOSS, but I slipped up there lol.
techbros should be shot on sight.
LMAOOOOO
The system I have is to assume that all software is libre. Then if I’m naming something that is proprietary I mention it.
"GNU Emacs is a program designed to be an multipurpose extensible interface to information/text manipulation. It is published by the GNU Project under a copyleft license.
"VSCode is a proprietary program released by Microsoft that is a multi-language code editor extended via plugins. Microsoft profits off of VSCode’s product network effect to sell proprietary plugins and subscription services. There is VSCodium as the de-blobbed implementation of VSCode published under a no-rights permissive license. This means that users contributing to codium will also be benefitting VSCode in turn, exposing the injustice of permissive licenses.
Microsoft’s massive user share on code editing leads to a ripple effect of advertising other proprietary products and also teaches users that proprietary software can be tolerated if it is a useful tool"
No need to juggle between “free vs open vs libre vs Foss etc”
I’d say it’s an ongoing struggle but it’s not going great right now.
I’m not sure if the call to cede the community spaces to the chuds is actually a good idea.
If that’s the case I have to agree, but I don’t know how bad it is in there to say if it is worth people’s time and effort.
I just want my laptop that was otherwise e-waste to be able to run old videogames and work as a media center
I’m getting a new laptop, and I wanted to install Arch +, as it turns out Hyprnaziland. Currently, I’m using Pop OS. Any recommendations? I’m working as a web developer.
For web dev, you’re probably fine anywhere. If you need special software they might only provide it for Ubuntu, and if you’re on another distro you would need to use distrobox to run it.
I use OpenSuSE, if you’re on Nvidia or don’t update often (like every week or two), then pick Leap, otherwise Tumbleweed is good
UBlue images are Fedora Atomic for developers, it should suit your needs while also making your system install very stable and very unlikely to break, in these you usually rely on Flatpak, Distrobox and Brew for stuff you need to install that is not already pre-installed. If you want tiling on a DE, there’s Krohnkite for KDE that I always see recommended.
Install fedora atomic desktop (GNOME or KDE is fine), and then do all your Dev setups through podman/docker and all your graphical apps through flatpak. Or just stick with POP!_OS if it already works for you.
Genuinely will be more productive than 99% of hyprnazi dorks.
Thank you for the suggestions. I’m checking them right now.
Fedora crossed my mind, but I wanted to test Arch after so many years and see how much I’ve learned.
Pop is great, but of course I couldn’t wait and updated to Cosmic Desktop, which is great, blazing fast, but being in beta has a lot of bugs. I might go with Fedora this time. Because let’s be honest, more than any fireworks I want stability.
