White boy who sympathises with the Legion even just a little bit has got to be one of the biggest red flags in a person.
First thing you see with the Legion in New Vegas is a town where all but one person were arbitrarily murdered. Chuds see this as aspirational.
b-b-but the roads are safe in legion territory…
this is totally a relic of neoliberal end-of-history bullshit and i can’t believe i didn’t clock it before
it’s false, it’s always been false, we’ve known it’s been false, that “liberal” democracy promotes crime. it’s it fact orders of magnitude more exacting on criminality than previous systems. but the enduring neofascist/neolib (depending on when/where) narrative of ‘liberalism’ begetting greater crime is tacitly accepted by FNV writers.
arguably, the NCR/Legion dynamic could be explained by overestension on the part of the NCR, but the way Cas talks about it seems like it’s not localized to the Mojave. So I think the writers actually bought into big government = ineffiency = unopposed criminals paradigm, when realistically any “totalitarian” accord the Legion enforced (with their level of technology) surely involved great accomidation and incorporation of ‘criminal’ elements–highwaymen became toll road men
the Romans pillage and call it tax, they create a graveyard and call it peace.
There is something to be said for the false dichotomy of Legion (smelly boy uncouth larper fascism) vs Brotherhood (orderly norms-loving techno-facism) in light of the Platner thing
KKK vs German Nazi
Amateur vs Professional
Literally in Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus
knowing Bethesda i think we can expect much more quirky roman-larp-is-silly shit than a serious condemnation of ideology. Bethesda likes communities defined by strange quirks, i’d be shocked if the misogyny of the legion gets more than a joke-acknowledgement
were there really more goddamn plastic roman helmets in a warehouse than football helmets?
(actually there probably were. and football helmets, being actual helmets would be pricier) still those make caesar legion look way too cool and competent. but they are wrong as far as i know for 3rd century gallics so thats funny
The kind of person to use the d-word epithet unironically to describe people they dislike while thinking they’re cool for doing so
“d-words like you belong on a cross!”
yes yes, very clever
What’s gonna be the worst part about this season is I won’t be playing my own New Vegas character as a continuation of my playthrough where I so a Yes Man route where me having enough power and popularity to just do communism and e force it with my nukes and robots.
Marx failed to consider that Ceasar’s will is absolute
The Brotherhood of Steel is so very far from perfect but critical support
Depends on which chapter, too. The brotherhood tries to have some kind of unifying set of (fascist) principles but they’re not very good at it.
The Brotherhood from Tactics are probably the best at unifying, but they’re barely canon and probably too woke (because they have tribal, mutants, ghouls and deathclaw recruits etc)
Maybe i need to rewatch S1 but the BoS never had that much conflict with the legion in the game, the NCR are their main adversaries
The Brotherhood would have almost zero problem with the Legion if they leave the Brotherhood alone. Their whole thing is gate keeping and hoarding pre-war tech and the Legion explictially bans it use.
There are cavaets to this though. They (Legion) attempt to obtain advanced energy weapons from the weapon dealing Van Graths, but are foiled by most players. And Caesar despite banning tech for his followers, indulges in it for himself. His reasons for banning it’s use by his soldiers is contextual and mostly a means of social control and discipline rather than arbitrarily ideological (in his mind). And will most likely be abandoned when he deems it nessecary, which would then obviously bring his nation to the attention of the Brotherhood. Also the Legion is hostile to the Brotherhood, you need to destroy their last bunker in the Mojave to advanced the Legion main quest.
