Mostly just asking out of curiosity, I don’t really have the time or the energy to be going to Judo classes RN.
I have heard some people say Judo actually, and karate, other just traditional boxing.
Running. Fighting as an adult is super fucking dangerous and if someone is willing to start a fight with you, chances are they’re gonna win, it’ll happen really fast and you’ll be half conscious at best. If you want to be prepared for a street fight, bareknuckle fight your friends for fun with a third person stopping it when needed, this will result in concussions and its dumb as hell but its the only way you’ll tske a good punch without being laid out immediately. Do not ever get into a fight. If you are in a situation where you NEED to fight, like attempted kidnapping or something like that and not a mugging or dispute you got for the eyes wirh everything you have, dont let anything stop you from blinding the person and hopefully you can run away after but if you cant, at least they cant see, if for some reason that doesnt work tape a really really deep breath and keep breathing deep and try to fucking kill the person via strangulation, they will hit you, just power through because your life depends on it in this case. Know where to squeeze and make sure you have as much air in your lungs as possible if they try the same to you. Eyes are top priority tho, maximizes your chances of escape. But really, just dont get into a fight, if you get robbed just take the L and stay calm about it, if someone is acting tuff at you, just leave. There’s no shame in that, what’s shameful is wanting to fistfight people as a grown up
lol this is actually right, great advise here. if you’re young fuckkng around and fighting your associates and friends, sure, that is helpful but otherwise yeah de-escalation when possible and learning how to get the fuck out is so crucial to being both a like interesting person and also not being dead
9I dont fight but am or were pals with a lot of oogles who do for fun and it is good to get for face recreational bashed in if you are going to be putting yourself in danger, I can take a lickin and keep on tickin and feel pretty confident in a fist fight against a cop, that is kinds nice to have under your belt. But because of the same associations a biker connected creep who has been going out with my roommates friend , who is cool as hell and became my friend fast was immediately assumed to be fucking both of us cause she moved.into our place and was a woman and was stalked and had my place firebombed and had a genuine threat of death on my hands, avoid this sort of scenario. We hooked a car battery to our metal doorknob so if anyone who didnt text ahead of time to get entrance would have a bad fuckimg time. Thst kind of beige mentality fucks you up and I was absolutely willing to tske this fucker’s life and do prison for it cause it felt like him or me. Don’t be there but if you are there and truly feel backed into a corner, there is no means whatsoever to fall short of, skipping toen is the best option but we were gonna hot shot this guy until a treaty was made. I have had to face a borderline kill or be killed situation where I had made plans to kill cause it was necessary. It sucks.
Edit: I should probably check up with a pro about this, just realized a life or death struggle is usually a therapist talk thing. When we had a meet to squash the beef I laid into the fiu who was going after us for hiring a guy to brick our window which led to my cat going missing, I wss so mad about Darby i kinda forgot we were trying to avoid axrusl murder. The other side has clearly forgotten tje grudge because murder grudges that go no where are a normal part of their life, I haven’t but in this case the best revenge is living well
Running works great when A) you’re faster or B) they’re not interested in chasing you.
Practice being faster. Way safer than practicing fighting
Got my recommendations in the thread already but practicing not being in these situations in the first place, leaving before it escalates, or trying de-escalation are all better than trying to be faster
Those both depend on the other person, if they fail you still wanna be faster
That’s true but at that point I’d rather depend on CCW or being able to ground someone and then run away
cardio. you need to be able to run the fuck away from shit as much as you need to be prepared to take a punch
Traditional boxing gives you a good framework for striking, makes your frame strong and teaches you how to take a punch
But in a straight-up fight, you want to practice something that teaches you how to break a hold because if you don’t know how, some chud who does BJJ will strangle you
I have some luck because my dad was in a street gang and taught me some real good tricks
Then my brother somehow made friends with a guy who did professional Tae Kwon Do and Jeet Kune Do and he taught me some stuff too
Best bet though is lots of cardio, get good at running, both sprinting and long-distance
If you can avoid a fight, that’s gonna be a lot better for you in the long run
If you can avoid a fight, that’s gonna be a lot better for you in the long run
This, it’s kind of cliche that the old master tells the pupil to not fight with some analogy, but it’s true, if you can get the fuck out of there without getting fucked up or followed that’s win.
Add ‘fights if your quick’
The best martial art is the 100m sprint, the next is the 500m race, and so on. No martial art really teaches you how to handle street fighting because those are vicious and dirty, and you can’t reasonably spar how to gouge out someone’s eyes.
I’ve been faced with imminent violent intent multiple times in my life, and each time I was saved by my ability to GTFO as fast as possible.
lol I actually teach violence deescalation w physical skills to inpatient psych workers and I start every class with “I don’t even know any marshal arts I’m a pro at exactly 2 things: 1) running away screaming, and 2) ganging up on people, and that’s what I’ll be teaching you today.”
The awkward thing about martial arts is that (assuming you’ve already tried to de-escalate and failed, of course) you have two options. Either you accept that your opponent is going to get to do what they want to you, or you commit to using all available force to stop them. This means the most useful ways to stop a person are dubiously legal, and teaching them as part of a public martial arts school is definitely illegal. There’s also the perverse incentive of schools to promote flashier styles or moves, even if they’re less effective, because that means attracting new students.
All that is to say, the second most effective method of self defense is leaving that situation, and the most effective is never entering it in the first place. As usual, individual focus on training and martial arts can only do so much against fash violence, and proper resistance requires defense organized on the level of communities, not individuals.
Going to take issue with everyone saying run away because it’s 50/50 whether you’re faster than they are, running away can be very dangerous unless they don’t want to chase.
This would be my list:
- Avoid the situation before it happens. Leave before it escalates if you can.
- De-escalation.
- CCW that you actually regularly train with. Don’t bother with this without the latter.
- I’ve heard BJJ is pretty good but from what I understand almost any martial art with a heavy emphasis on light sparring work well. Stay away from anywhere where the sparring feels like a full contact real world fight thought because you’ll get CTE.
Going to take issue with everyone saying run away because it’s 50/50 whether you’re faster than they are, running away can be very dangerous unless they don’t want to chase.
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if you aren’t confident that you’re in better shape than they are, you’re just going to have to fight them anyway, except now you’re more tired
Gun
What if I don’t have a gun on me?
halberd
Good thing I always have my trusty halberd on me!
Pepper gel
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Gun kata.
Where can I get anti-emotion drugs?
Gotta remove your emotions first though
Those drugs ain’t cheap
More like $$RIs amirite?
As lots of people here have already suggested, work on your cardio and learn how to get the fuck out of there.
One thing that nobody has suggested so far but I’ve seen being said over and over again by self-defense “specialists” (for what it’s worth) is to get a strong flashlight. It’s legal to carry everywhere, blinds the other person without risking spraying yourself with pepper spray, can be deescalated, contrary to a gun or knife, and is, generally speaking, a very useful thing to have with you at all times anyway. I’m not an EDC guy, but I carry my Wurkkos FC11C with me at all times.
Marching, baton twirling, tall hat owning
All martial arts that are practical (that is to say, built around frequent sparring rather than just theory) are pretty equal in that they teach you what it’s like to fight with a resisting opponent and feel what it’s like to be struck and keep doing what you’re trying to do despite that. None of them are useful in the sense of showing you what you’ll actually do in a life or death fight. Because like everyone else has been saying, in that situation you hit da bricks and then gouge out eyes and arteries if you’re cornered.
Don’t worry too much about the differences between different martial arts, just get to practicing anything and don’t forget your cardio.
And if you’re in the US, prioritize learning to use a rifle or shotgun for defending home turf over any hand to hand combat. That could be useful in a variety of situations in the coming years.
cardio and good shoes
having several friends with you
gun
striking and takedown defense
Don’t forget sock full of rocks
Boxing is a common recommendation but using heavy gloves warps considerations a lot and so does the no-kicking thing. Still good for fitness and coordination, though.
BJJ is helpful because grappling is very important and so is how to fight on the ground, which many martial arts mostly neglect. Really, it’s the boring answer but MMA is probably the best because it has striking, including kicking, and grappling, including on the ground. That and dedicated practical self-defense classes.
My experience of getting into a fight is:
hit from behind / momentary flashes of confusion, the ground, yellow light, kicking someone / waking up bleeding in a cab
And
“Hey do you have the time?” hit in the face while turning / confusion of faces and being kicked / flagging a cab and going home
I would say running and situational awareness. I’ve been mugged 3 times, none were very dangerous I just stayed calm and asked if I could keep my cards (they said yes, they’re muggers not monsters). When people attack each other it is fast and extremely brutual, you can very easily be permanently maimed or die by hits to the head or falling.
Don’t engage in fantasies of squaring off and wrestling, you will almost always be jumped by a group if people want to hurt you.
