That’s literally just fruity language knowing full well liberals will fucking hate him because he disagrees with them at a spiritual level on almost every single topic.
The dude doesn’t filter himself for you and leans into the fact he knows you’ll hate him anyway. You’re just justifying your classism and finding your own way to shut down takes that you personally disagree with by saying “he’s rude about them”. You’re doing exactly what I just fucking said is classism.
I don’t know what else to say. You’re a classist. A stinky middle income liberal that demands people speak a certain way or be excluded from the space. If you’ve ever wondered why the working class turns away from liberals it’s because they can feel the classism permeating every conversation you have with them, although most of the time they’ll communicate it as “elitism”. It’s exactly the kind of offputting shit from the libs that the far right has seized upon and pandered to successfully by the likes of Farage and so on. They lean into it, they tell the working class “yes you’re right about those stuck up elitist liberals” and then they become best buds over hatred for the way you judge them and behave towards them from the high castles of liberal moralism you’ve created to shut them out.
You know how poc can tell when they’re speaking to a racist through various cues and feelings without any overt direct racism occurring? Well it’s the same for classism.
You do not really know when to stop, do you? The ad hominem attacks simply make it completely uninteresting to interact with you. Even if your points are valid, which I am not getting in to, they will not be read (at least by me). Some people do enjoy fighting people online. I do not.
If that feels/seems like classism to you, fine. Have a nice day.
EDIT: Also, if that picture is what you have in your head when reading my replies – you are projecting. I have literally never felt like that while conversing online. Nor in real life really. You assume far too much.
she isn’t doing an argumentum ad-hominem, she’s just insulting you, those are different things (not that it would matter as this isn’t a formal debate)
“your argument is incorrect because you are a dickhead” ← ad hominem
I used to not have this pet peeve. Then one of my coworkers mentioned it was one of his during a conversation about acquiring other people’s pet peeves. And now I have the same pet peeve because I see it used all the time.
I think it’s good not to do real ad homs in basically any context because it’s still an invalid inference, but you’re also right that it’s not a real ad hom.
Holy shit if you don’t want me to fucking reply to your smug ass bullshit just stop replying with smug ass fucking bullshit?
ad hominem
You people say these debate pervert words because you think they’re magic words that automatically place you higher than the other person, in every fucking sentence you’re just looking for ways to elevate yourself above me instead of understand me. You all think you’re digital harry potter casting EXPECTO PATRONUM every time you say this cringe ass shit. Magic “i win” reddit bullshit instead of trying to actually level with someone. All ego.
Yes it’s fucking classism.
Cast some more magic spells harry, logical fallacy my slippery slope. Now I’m just being mean, I wasn’t lying when I said I fucking hate this shit as you can see.
That’s literally just fruity language knowing full well liberals will fucking hate him because he disagrees with them at a spiritual level on almost every single topic.
The dude doesn’t filter himself for you and leans into the fact he knows you’ll hate him anyway. You’re just justifying your classism and finding your own way to shut down takes that you personally disagree with by saying “he’s rude about them”. You’re doing exactly what I just fucking said is classism.
I don’t know what else to say. You’re a classist. A stinky middle income liberal that demands people speak a certain way or be excluded from the space. If you’ve ever wondered why the working class turns away from liberals it’s because they can feel the classism permeating every conversation you have with them, although most of the time they’ll communicate it as “elitism”. It’s exactly the kind of offputting shit from the libs that the far right has seized upon and pandered to successfully by the likes of Farage and so on. They lean into it, they tell the working class “yes you’re right about those stuck up elitist liberals” and then they become best buds over hatred for the way you judge them and behave towards them from the high castles of liberal moralism you’ve created to shut them out.
That is quite an opinion you have there.
you’re doing it right now, just oozing smugness
You know how poc can tell when they’re speaking to a racist through various cues and feelings without any overt direct racism occurring? Well it’s the same for classism.
You do not really know when to stop, do you? The ad hominem attacks simply make it completely uninteresting to interact with you. Even if your points are valid, which I am not getting in to, they will not be read (at least by me). Some people do enjoy fighting people online. I do not.
If that feels/seems like classism to you, fine. Have a nice day.
EDIT: Also, if that picture is what you have in your head when reading my replies – you are projecting. I have literally never felt like that while conversing online. Nor in real life really. You assume far too much.
she isn’t doing an argumentum ad-hominem, she’s just insulting you, those are different things (not that it would matter as this isn’t a formal debate)
“your argument is incorrect because you are a dickhead” ← ad hominem
“you are a dickhead” ← just an insult
thank you
now if only we could get people not to use “begs the question” when they mean raises the question
I used to not have this pet peeve. Then one of my coworkers mentioned it was one of his during a conversation about acquiring other people’s pet peeves. And now I have the same pet peeve because I see it used all the time.
lmao ignorance is bliss i guess
[searches internet…]
noted ✍️.
i find this ratio of text to citation very amusing
I think it’s good not to do real ad homs in basically any context because it’s still an invalid inference, but you’re also right that it’s not a real ad hom.
Holy shit if you don’t want me to fucking reply to your smug ass bullshit just stop replying with smug ass fucking bullshit?
You people say these debate pervert words because you think they’re magic words that automatically place you higher than the other person, in every fucking sentence you’re just looking for ways to elevate yourself above me instead of understand me. You all think you’re digital harry potter casting EXPECTO PATRONUM every time you say this cringe ass shit. Magic “i win” reddit bullshit instead of trying to actually level with someone. All ego.
Yes it’s fucking classism.
Cast some more magic spells harry, logical fallacy my slippery slope. Now I’m just being mean, I wasn’t lying when I said I fucking hate this shit as you can see.
“Lol that picture of a smug vapid piece of shit has exactly zero resemblance to me”
I’d like to hold up a mirror to you for a second if you’ll allow me:
If you were a FUCKING FRACTION as smart as you clearly think you are, wouldn’t you take a second to read the room?
You are a walking breathing caricature lmao
“Erm aksually you’re the smug one. Ad hominem, wengardium leviosa”
I never associate “Ad hominem”, “whataboutism”, etc to magic words but it’s exactly how people see it. They use it and boom they win the argument.
they hear or read the words but don’t learn the concepts, or are downstream of a bunch of people who used it wrong.
and i say wrong here because they were trying to say something else and failed to say what they meant, not out of prescriptivism.
that’s not what an ad hominem is
Here is the picture I have in mind, you’ll have to wait a minute the server is slow:
Sorry, but the The ad hominem attacks will not stop . Although there’s no ad-hominem here.
Ugh, I wasn’t immediately onboard with Awoo’s assessment of you but then you went and proved it right in eight words