I keep seeing this tossed around and I must have missed something. “Abundance Democrats” what is that? What do they mean by “Abundance”? What bullshit are they rebranding?
It’s the belief that capitalism can overcome its contradictions by producing so much that shortages become nonexistent. It ignores the fact that capitalism relies on artificial shortages.
Insert grapes of wrath quote here.
This is the most succinct definition and dismissal of the concept.
ezra klein wrote a silly book about rebranding neoliberalism
We shall neither read it nor reply to it.
LOL that’s great.
Trickle down economics, “the freer the market the freer the people”, small government, regulation bad, redistribution doesn’t work, a rising ride lifts all boats, etc etc
But using different words to try and trick people.
It’s just third way politics again, neoliberalism with a fresh coat of paint. Same as it ever was.
Like I always say, the freer the market, the harder they fall. Read between the lines no new taxes.
Some people have confused technology for magic and believe as a religious belief that technology can overcome any limits to capitalism presented mainly by the environment and resource limits. This in turn will lead to abundance of treats for everyone including the peasants so peasants should be very happy. Therefore vote Democrat. It’s basically a con job. There is a big gap between its premise and conclusions. If the people selling this bullshit believe it then they are insane. If they don’t believe it then they are pieces of shit.
everyone gets a pony and don’t think about the consequences of unfettered captalism DONT 3
It’s especially hilarious that they’re tying to sell it at this point and time when capitalism is literally imploding. I mean it’s not even a new form of pr for capitalist bullshit. This was the promise of the mid ~20th century. It worked for a while when there was an abundance of easily extracted natural resources but now it’s just a paycheck for the people selling this crap. It won’t catch on. Peoples lived reality will make accepting it impossible. Unless they’re trying to make it a cult like Musk did with his businesses. I would say it’s too lame to become a cult but Musk became a cult leader so wtf do I know.
In this moment, I am abundant. Not because of any wasteful government program. But because, I am enlightened by the market.
I read the Ezra Klein article where he sniffs his own farts. It’s just public-private partnership policy which has defined the Democrats since Clinton, but with a little more social welfare and climate regulation. His grand theory is “corporations are the vehicle for power in the US” + “not all corporations are aligned on all goals” = “we need to work with corporations to build a better future”.
So why are Democrats jumping on it as if it’s something grandiose? Because it’s a new way to tut tut the nascent left by saying “it’s reductionist to say capitalism is the root of all bad things.”
Citations Needed: Ep. 223: The Empire Strikes First, Part II — ‘Abundance’ Pablum as Counter to Left Populism
Episode webpage: https://sites.libsyn.com/102225/ep-223-the-empire-strikes-first-part-ii-abundance-pablum-as-counter-to-left-populism
the signal has been lit
I just finished listening to part two. All my fears about the next election are in it. Pushing Mayo Pete on the electorate with another neolib economic agenda that will only help private equity but disguised as populism so libs get duped and then of course when he loses they can play the identity politics card as the reason… yep. Playbook in plain sight folks. Expect more of this garbage from the Koch brothers
i think its partially related to the yimby idea that allowing new housing to be built by deregulating the industry around building housing means that developers will build new housing in abundance and cause housing to become affordable to the average person.
as a side note the yimby movement is fucking tiring because strong towns succeeded at turning the entire discussion around housing into market economics instead of “everyone needs housing” and assuming developers will build baby build isn’t really working
“JUST BUILD GOOD PUBLIC HOUSING” I scream into the void as the abundance police beat me lifeless.
treatlerite sophistry
It’s the dance that can only be performed by a small, soft piece of bread.
Aboondance
“What if we did all the shit we just tried again but it works cause we call it something else”
Early hedging against degrowth.
Edit: There is a Breitbart article (fictional editorial?) about this: (Warning: Right Wing Media)
Today, in the year 2064, as we look back over the last 50 years, it might seem as if the Abundance Revolution was inevitable, since so much wealth was involved. After all, it was wealth just waiting to be unleashed.
James P Pinkerton writes an editorial from the future about the Abundance Revolution, which takes place in 2014 and is caused by Cliven Bundy’s take over of federal land under Obummer. That event was cattle farmers (years before Yellowstone) who didn’t want to pay grazing fees, took over a national park and made a Chud version of CHAZ with militias and everything. They wanted to kick off a civil war, if you read their writing and listened to their hopes and motivations.
Here is how James describes the animus for the Abundance Revolution:
Yet paradoxically, on the eve of the Abundance Revolution, many of America’s leaders, on the right as well as the left, were preaching a strict doctrine of overall austerity.
Indeed, as we look back and study the events of 2014, we can see the results of the Green elite’s ideologically-driven effort to squelch even the relatively small amount of prosperity that Americans were then enjoying. That is, it was the Green elites who unwittingly opened the door to the Abundance Revolution and the fantastic increase in wealth that Americans have since realized over the last half-century.
It is, essentially, a reaction to climate change. Specifically the idea that to curb and survive the effects of climate change, we have to stop eating beef/meat, stop using ICE cars, turn over ranch lands to make solar farms, etc.
It also hits home for real estate developers and people (read: industries) who don’t want to dump chemicals into natural waterways:
Yet beginning in the 1970s, the federal government’s approach to land management changed dramatically. Whereas once Uncle Sam had supported development where possible, through dams and other kinds of infrastructure, the new federal policy was the opposite: The Greens, gaining control of federal policymaking during the 1970s, saw federal ownership of the land as an opportunity to stop any sort of development or economic growth. And a key tool for the Greens was the Endangered Species Act (ESA) of 1973. ESA represented a radical expansion of federal power: In the past, the national parks had been set aside to protect endangered species; yet after ESA was passed, the entire country became, in effect, a national park. As a result, in any location where activists could identify an “endangered species,” they could squelch development. And so enforcement of ESA became a kind of racket, in which clever biologists and litigators could team up to block any sort of development and take effective control of any land.
Yet as a reminder of the wisdom that power begets hubris and then nemesis, it was overreaching on the ESA’s power that led to the Battle of Bunkerville; Bundy and other ranchers in Nevada were pushed off their land to protect the desert tortoise, a species that could easily have been protected–if that were really the issue–in zoos or nature preserves. But instead, the Greens got greedy, and that led to the moment when Bundy drew his famous Line in the Desert.
So in addition to acute climate change reaction, you have an underlying chronic crankery against the EPA and environmentalists. Because by protecting endangered species, that land can’t be acquired by beef farmers or industry or real estate.
The third triggering incident came on April 18, 2014, when the Barack Obama administration announced that it was delaying, yet again, any decision on the Keystone Pipeline. This move was widely regarded as cynical pandering to a sect of Green billionaires, led by the infamous Tom Steyer of San Francisco. The Obama administration and many Democrats seemed happy enough to bow to Steyer’s wishes in return for campaign cash, but in this instance, the pandering was so flagrant that the decision blew up in the administration’s face. While the liberal media were happy with the Keystone decision, the legacy press was no longer powerful enough to sway public opinion. Instead, the struggle for public opinion was swayed by activists who took to alternative and social media to make the case in favor of Keystone–and against the Reign of Steyer.
It wouldn’t be the Obama era without a dash of Koch-backed oil anxiety.
I don’t know where it’s at now, but it started in libertarian opposition to degrowth. That’s why it’s called abundance. They want to project the idea that everything (especially oil) is plentiful and accessible. There is no limit to land or water or any resources, just government regulators and environmentalists holding everything back. So when forms of degrowth become necessarily, these people will violently oppose it. They will be the ones guarding Peter Thiel’s AI companies’ coal power plants.
Holy shit that’s crazy. Finite resources abundant!? LOL.
Liberalism has shed its historic progressive character and now the adherents of liberalism constantly have to rebrand their conservatism as something new.
The worst of libertarianism but you’re a New York “intellectual” who chuckles to Bill Maher