adult woman fetish
I hope my wife never finds out that I originally started dating her because of my adult woman fetish.
Telling the mother of my children she’s a milf and that’s very cool by me.
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Guy I have a confession, I have a sick disgusting fetish…
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Adult women
Hexbear has gone WOKE
Satire is dead. I can’t tell if the original is being ironic or sincere
Shameless pedophiles are just the worst.
I hope I don’t catch flak for this, but part of me feels bad for adults attracted to minors that DON’T want to be. Like fuck shameless pedophiles that actively prey on children, but I’d image there’s also people out there who quietly live with the disorder and fucks their life up. There was a documentary I watched by Louis Theroux once about a special prison just for pedophiles and it was kind of sad. Like it’s obvious they weren’t getting the help they needed inside and it was just a place to hold them so they wouldn’t be murdered in prison. The only real way out was voluntary chemical castration and come on that’s pretty barbaric.
It sucks you can’t approach or talk about these people without the baggage of violent pedophiles who actually hurt people.
idk hope I’m not too off base here.
If you want to reduce occurences of abuse I think it would make good sense to make sure that pedophiles had easy and anonymous access to non-judgemental therapy. We would like as many as possible to seek professional help.
As for those actually convicted of abuse the same principle applies, they need help, not just for their own sake but certainly also for the children’s sake.
I agree with you, “pedophile” and “child abuser” aren’t synonyms and pedophilia itself is a mental illness, I don’t see why anyone would “choose” to be a pedophile and we absolutely should at least try to help non-offenders who want to get better.
However you seemingly can’t bring this up without getting labelled a pedo sympathiser so I just don’t bother anymore.
I don’t see why anyone would “choose” to be a pedophile
It is worth noting that there are people who don’t seem to have the mental illness (nor are victims of CSA) but seem to like it as a power thing, ranging from weebs to soldiers.
But you are right there are people who just have the mental illness, are revolted at the idea of hurting children, and desperately need help that doesn’t impugn on their character for something that isn’t their fault.
You’re not off base at all. Being attracted to children is not the issue here (and people shouldn’t be stigmatized for that alone). The real issue is the willingness to traumatize others just for a few minutes of pleasure, which isn’t exclusive to pedophiles.
But because this whole topic so incredibly emotionally charged, people really can’t differentiate between those 2 things, which makes any sort of discussion pretty much impossible.
The real issue is the willingness to traumatize others just for a few minutes of pleasure, which isn’t exclusive to pedophiles.
I actually remember reading about a study that was carried out on a group of inmates who had been sentenced for sexually abusing children, and apparently it showed that a majority of them weren’t actually pedophiles in the clinical sense, as in having a primary sexual preference for children, but were rather opportunists who chose children as victims out of convenience. Children are easier to manipulate both mentally and physically than adults, so that’s what they went for.
I have read a similar study about people caught with CSAM. They largely weren’t attracted to children, they just wanted the rush of looking at something unacceptable.
The real issue is the willingness to traumatize others just for a few minutes of pleasure, which isn’t exclusive to pedophiles.
Exactly, like it’s so extremely normalized for men to just reduce down the target of their lust into a depersonalized sex-thing to control and own and use for their own entertainment. This is what I think is at the heart of how reactionaries breathlessly try to draw lines between pedophilia (the disorder) and the crime of preying on teenagers, because the latter is just a slight realignment downwards from what they are already believe is normal and ok (men controlling and exploiting women), and they see hurting and exploiting people as fine but being “weird” as an intolerable mortal insult.
Also ever since the “height gap discourse” thread I’ve been stuck with the realization that the problem is not that someone being attracted to a short woman who is not well endowed is “icky”, it’s the literally everything else that goes along with projecting one’s desires onto someone who does not and/or fundamentally cannot reciprocate them, the dehumanization and reduction of a person down to just a fetish object to be taken and owned, the innate power imbalance and how it facilitates abuse and control, even the ephemerality of someone wanting to have someone for a trait that they will inevitably stop having in short order. All of these are problems with how toxic the accepted “normal” male expression of sexuality in our society is, because these are horrible issues when they’re directed at adults and they only get worse as their targets get younger, with the power imbalance increasing and increasing and the way that genuine enthusiastic consent stops even being a hypothetical possibility.
people really can’t differentiate between those 2 things,
That and the fact that an overwhelmingly large amount of people who are just “harmlessly” indulging in lolicon hentai or similar victimless art are also virulent misogynistic fascists who are actively getting more alienated and radicalized into right wing bile because it validates their self-serving, dehumanizing desires and twists any feelings of guilt or self-loathing into outwardly directed violence, all the while further conditioning and reinforcing their desires and probably tacking on a whole bunch of revolting rationalizations to it too.
It seems like the number of people who have a genuine disorder that gives them intrusive thoughts that are at odds with their ethical beliefs is extremely small compared to the population that’s just “typical shitty fascist straight guy whose brain has rotted to the point that his accepted targets of lust include young teens and children, and has become obsessed with the latter because of brainworms.”
someone being attracted to a short woman who is not well endowed is “icky”
Wait, there are people on here who actually believe this? I must have missed this lol
Like what would they expect women who are built like that to do with that information, should they just resign themselves to being forever alone because apparently anyone who finds them attractive has to be some some weird creep that must be avoided?
Wait, there are people on here who actually believe this?
That was the subject of a wild post that got linked here, uh was it sometime last year? I can’t remember if anyone actually took the side of the person in the post, but I remember it being a very long thread so it was either a slop feeding frenzy or a struggle session.
anyone who finds them attractive has to be some some weird creep that must be avoided?
I will mention that that seems to be a somewhat common complaint that women with more childlike figures have, that they have repeated bad experiences with guys who are treating them as “a legal alternative” and pushing age play on them or just being kind of creepy and as a result are immediately suspicious of anyone who’s into them.
Although “repeated bad experiences with guys” is also a normal straight woman thing.
I will mention that that seems to be a somewhat common complaint that women with more childlike figures have, that they have repeated bad experiences with guys who are treating them as “a legal alternative” and pushing age play on them or just being kind of creepy and as a result are immediately suspicious of anyone who’s into them.
Sorry, but I don’t buy this. This sounds like something that only exists on the internet.
There was a documentary (vice, I think?) with a woman with a genetic disorder that makes her look like tween. She says dating is really hard because there’s tons of creeps who are attracted to her only because she looks like a child, and the few good men she meets are always on edge about being seen having a romantic relationship with someone who looks like a child.
This is an extreme case, but all this to say that it happens.
Wait, there are people on here who actually believe this?
There’s a difference between “This is a woman who I am attracted to, and she has x and y features that you could call neotenous if you really wanted to” vs “I specifically have a sexual attraction to more neotenous women”
Yeah, like, if you find yourself dating someone who looks young, that’s one thing. If your “type” is young-looking women, that’s more suspicious.
I read an article a long while ago about a group of people who were sexually attracted to children, and didn’t want to be. It was really sad. But a key thing was they weren’t abusing anyone and didn’t want to. I don’t think those people deserve to be crucified. It’s better if they can reach out for help. I think right now if someone admitted what their involuntary response was, they’d be lumped in with the worst sorts of abusers.
I mean, it shows empathy, which is one of the most important things to have
We can’t have a functioning society if everyone is constantly suspecting each other of being a “deviant” which is exactly why the old canard of “Think about the children!” comes from
Personally, I’m a lot more worried about the men who beat their step kids to death, the women who starve their children and a government which allows any of this to happen
So heres the thing. If someone is in prison for it, it means they commited a crime. Thoughts are not crimes. Feelings are not crimes. Those people did an action that got them in prison. Just like you can want to murder somebody, but not do it because you know murder is bad.
Would it be nice if we had a society where the people silently suffering could go get the help they need, and get their mind right? Yeah. But those people in prison deserve to be there. Never forget that. Even if those people were to be somehow magically made to not be pedophiles anymore they would STILL be a danger to society. The crimes they commited reflect their own wants, but their willingness to commit the crime is another matter entirely. IMO the punishment for the crimes those people committed should be execution. Chemical castration is way too merciful.
So you are right that the underlying chemical imbalance, or whatever causes it isn’t something that should doom someone. It’s not their fault they’re attracted to what they are. BUT it is their fault if they act on it, and they don’t deserve your sympathy.
If someone is in prison for it, it means they commited a crime.
Are we on a communist board mostly populated by Americans where you are saying that everyone in prison is actually guilty of what they were convicted of? I’m not saying it’s that common for people to be falsely accused of CSA (I have no idea), but people get put in prison for terrible crimes that they didn’t commit all the time.
But those people in prison deserve to be there. Never forget that.
It’s better for people to be rehabilitated and contribute constructively to society. There is no “deserving” punishment. Either they need to be put away for the time being for the common good, or you’re literally just torturing someone.
IMO the punishment for the crimes those people committed should be execution. Chemical castration is way too merciful.
Never mind, you’re just being a retributive sicko. I won’t speculate on your root motivation for saying it (every possibility that I can think of is pretty rude to suggest) but you’re just advocating for complete barbarism in a way that’s divorced from any serious path to make society better. Just “kill the baddies.”
This was not a discussion about the effectiveness of the American legal system. My comment was already long enough without taking the time to hash out whether or not each specific justice system is able to correctly determine who commits crimes and who doesnt. I was simply putting a contrast between those who may have pedophillic thoughts but do not act on them, and those who do.
It is not about punishment. People who commit crimes like this against children are a danger to them, and need to be kept away from them by force. This is not to punish the person who did it, but to protect every child in society.
Would i be a retibutive sicko to advocate for the execution of Nazis? Or Hitler himself? Execution is something China uses for these exact situations. People who do things like this to children are a danger to every child, and a 0 tolerance policy is the best way to protect children. Being merciful towards them does not make society better. It makes it more dangerous.
It is not about punishment
I don’t know which one of us you’re lying to.
But those people in prison deserve to be there. Never forget that.
“Deserve” is not a term of utility and consequence. “Deserve” means that they should suffer in prison even if there is no external benefit. You aren’t talking about protecting children, something everyone obviously agrees with, you are trying to assert as self-evident the need to inflict suffering for its own sake and then masking that with language about protecting children. Does that remind you of anyone?
Aside from the absolutely ridiculous and disgusting way that you made sweeping statements about prisoners as though the justice system is that dedicated to justice, something you can’t just paper over by saying “oh, I didn’t want to get lost in the weeds in my ‘fuck people in prisons’ rant,” you’re also treating people who have done wrong as though they can’t change, as though their souls are just inferior to yours. Here, one might be tempted to speculate why you are choosing to categorize people this way, but I’m still going to refrain. How do I know you’re doing this? Because I said:
Either they need to be put away for the time being for the common good, or you’re literally just torturing someone.
And you could have just said “yeah”
Would i be a retibutive sicko to advocate for the execution of Nazis? Or Hitler himself?
This is an insipid comparison, but regardless the answer in the context of a powerful and wealthy state is that yes, executing people to satisfy your own impotent sense of moral outrage is bad and you shouldn’t do it. If you’re in the midst of a revolution or some other very tenuous situation, or you really need to pick and choose which mouths to feed, yeah, fuck 'em, even if they aren’t criminals someone ultimately may need to go for the common good. But we aren’t talking about that kind of situation, we are talking about an abundantly wealthy civil society that doesn’t need to behave like it’s under artillery fire.
Execution is something China uses for these exact situations
I was also withholding remarks on how you’re an embarrassment to your communist aesthetic and much more at home with punitively-minded reactionaries, but here I have constructive reason to remark on it: Do you know whose side represents China’s stance back when it cared about Mao for any reason beyond nationalism? Mine. Mao made it a specific point of pride that even Emperor Puyi himself (along with countless KMT and even Japanese soldiers) were rehabilitated and able to participate in society constructively as good socialists. The current policy of the state that uses Mao’s corpse as a costume is absurd and unjustifiable.
Being merciful towards them does not make society better. It makes it more dangerous.
You are so caught up in your To Catch a Predator fantasy that you are missing several practical aspects of the common good, not the least of which being that we aren’t asking God, in His omniscience, to strike down predators, and killing innocent people should indeed be considered a danger to society.
Furthermore, no one is saying we should “tolerate” predators, like you catch a Catholic priest doing the Catholic priest thing and say “well, everyone gets one!” The point is that you are speaking of these people as some sort of elemental force, metaphysically bound by their dirty souls to hurt people and hurt people. Should they be kept on a registry for the rest of their life? Yeah, I think so, but that doesn’t mean they remain predators and are beyond any rehabilitation, even if it takes years of the state keeping them in some facility to accomplish that end.
You seriously sound like TYT talking about bail reform.
Typical westerner who says all AES states are bad, and takes a single word someone says and tries to read entire worldviews into it. Putting so much effort into trying to spin what i said as somehow inhumane when i was clearly making a distinction between people who actively choose to be child predators, and those who do not. Not making statements as to the effectiveness of the American justice system.
Then talking about rehabilitation for people like that as if its the same thing as rehabilitating an emperor who was ignorant and insulated, and whose crimes were systemically taught to him as a good thing/necessary his entire life.
These people went against what is societally acceptable in their own societies. To harm children in the most despicable way possible in order to fufill their own desires. Regardless of how nice to might sound to say we can just “Fix” them we cant. We don’t know how. If one day we figure out WHY they do what they do, and how we can fix them then sure we can do that. But its not something we know how to do.
To let them walk the streets again registry or not is untenable. Did you read the article i sent you? Those men China executed commited long-term coordinated crimes against children to the point some of those children took their own lives. You would what? Put them in jail for a few years then put them on a list, release them, and hope they don’t do it again? That is absolutely irresponsible and ridiculous. It not only allows those very people to go commit the same crimes again, but tells others who might think of doing those crimes that they will survive it even if caught.
As for your focus on “deserve” for some reason. As the original comment was talking about people who don’t want to be pedophiles, but are. I was making a distinction. The people in jails for it are the ones who DID act on it. Hence they deserve to be imprisoned and are in a seperate category than those who DID NOT act on it. Because i was pointing out how people do not get sent to prison for simply thinking pedophillic things and never acting on it. It’s the action that gets them arrested.
As for you refusal to see my point on the justice system i will remind you America is not the only country on earth. Why would i bring up America centric issues like its justice systems tendency to wrongfully convict when talking about a global issue. On top of that the justice system in any nation does not exist to get 100% of its convictions right all the time anyway. It exists, in a functional nation atleast, to ensure stability. You can’t just allow criminals who would harm others to walk around freely. So we have to rely on imperfect systems that sometimes can get it wrong. We take efforts to make them get it wrong less often of course, but it’s just something that happens.
This is why we have trials, and we treat a conviction of a crime as confirmation that someone DID do that crime not because it is correct 100% of the time, but because it is more often than not correct, and it is the only mechanism we have to determine someones innocence or guilt. If you want to advocate for a different system to do this then that’s great, and i hope you find one that gets the answer right more often. It’s not relevant to this conversation though. Justice systems vary by country, and sometimes even regions within a country. The effectiveness of these is something each nation has to handle on its own. Until then we have no choice but to assume those convicted are guilty as that is the entire point of having trials. To throw out that assumption wholesale would lead to having no mechanisms to determine guilt or innocence at all.
Anyway to close yes i allign politically with modern day China on most things. If you consider that to mean i am “Aesthetically Communist” and actually some sort of reactionary then thats great for you. Personally i think that your the one being aesthetically communist while refuting any system that actually works to empower the workers. Let me guess your a big fan of european socialist communes that ultimately failed? Certain westerners tend to love socialism as long as it doesnt actually threaten capitalism in the slightest. But as soon as an AES state is successful they’re “Evil Authoritarians” lol. It’s just a coincidence that your views on China allign with US foreign policy interests right? Couldn’t possibly be because they’ve purposefully cultivated that view among their people in order to support their own goals, and keep actual leftist sentiment under control, and focused on ineffective means of combating capitalism right? So keep on despising every country that is Americas enemy for being authoritarian. It’s such an easy position to hold when your in the west I’m sure nobody gives you push back on it. Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, etc would all agree with you. China bad. DPRK bad. etc.
But those people in prison deserve to be there
what the fuck does it say about us on the fact these dumbfucks run circles around us in every culture war?
The entire media apparatus is built to give them a platform while diminishing ours. They are given near unlimited resources to spread hateful bullshit and if any leftist movement starts to gain traction it will be brutally and violently suppressed. It’s not that they’re winning the “culture war” it’s that the powers that be want people to be dumb and hateful, so they give the dumbest and most hateful people a megaphone to spread those views.
In a “level playing field” their nonsense would be laughed out of the room and they would be relentlessly mocked for their bad takes.
They’re not publically dunked on hard enough. They will keep winning as long as normals still think these people are just like them.
Mods are holding us back.
See what I mean?
Pretty bleak stuff.
Culture wars are based on passion. The more wrong you are the harder you have to have to work to maintain it. The immense pressure of that sharpens the mind like a knife. It is like trying to fight a deep sea fish underwater.
Minus ten points for the slur, but plus a hundred points for having some common sense and morals.
Hence why I censored it, trying to find a good post from 4chan without slurs is the needle in the haystack.
I mean gamers normally have under-age fetish so an adult woman can only be a fetish for them.
I wish Japan wasn’t so comfortable with outright pedophilia. It’s hard to find works from the country that don’t go into uncomfortable territory when it comes to minors.
I quit playing fire emblem because of that. I forget exactly which one, it was in the Ds/3ds era, but it was a fun enough tactics game until suddenly they introduce the “I’m a thousand year old dragon that only looks like a 6 year old girl in a bikini” character
I didn’t keep playing after that
I’m a thousand year old dragon that only looks like a 6 year old girl in a bikini
That statement could apply to at least half the games in the series.
Damn that was my first (and last) fire emblem game, I just recognized Marth from Super Smash Bros and figured I’d give it a shot. I didn’t know it was Pedophilia: The Game
They are good SRPGs and the roster is big enough to just bench the dragons and ignore them for the vast majority of the game (and skip all the romantic supports). But your personal tolerance will vary.
They are all easy to pirate as well.
Once again asking Japan to fucking stop it with this shit.
The anime culture around loli and shit are bizarre but what really bothered me was the story of Nobuhiro Watsuki, the author of Rurouni Kenshin, that got caught with tons of CSAM, so much that people think that he didn’t only consume that shit but produce it and distributing it. This garbage human being is still praised and the vast majority of mangakas drew shit tons of art for the commemoration of whatever many years of Rurouni Kenshin.
The worst part is that he was fined ¥200,000 for it all (less than $2000 USD)
Yeah I remember his case. It’s like anime has this thing where you’ll have good adult characters then there’s the arbitrary child character solely for the pedophile otaku in the audience and I hate it.
It’s sort of like how animal mascots get shoehorned in.
This was recommended to me on a dating app by someone whose only other recommendation was Ancient Magus Bride.
I liked the Ancient Magus Bride anime, the production of it, the opening song is beautiful but fuck the history is so fucking bizarre.
Modern Scarlet is very femdom
That soldier as the foot rest is so lucky.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
This is when you’re only attracted to people with the features of a flat-screen TV.
Yeah, I do prefer my partners to be 20 and up. That number will only increase with time
You mean that you want to have at least twenty partners, or that they need to be at least twenty in age?
hmmmmmmmmmm, 20 partners sounds like too much
7·24 hours agoIn context its age. But a polycule of 20… Well if it works out for you that’s really cool
Honestly this whole time whenever people discuss polyamory in the abstract I’ve always defaulted to picturing like 10-20 people.
From the Greek “telos,” meaning “purpose” or “end.” Much rather translate this as “attraction to those who have achieved apotheosis.”
